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		<title>By: Stancie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stancie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to be awarded a doctorate in this country a tremendous amount of knowledge needs to be gained.  If I wanted to learn to build a boat, I would actually want to learn from the people who knew most on the subject.  If I found out that people who knew most about the marine industry all voted Libertarian, I would look at that seriously.  If you find  those who are most highly educated and knowledgeable in our society tend to vote a certain way, rather than attacking them, would it not make sense to link the two?  

That being said, I attended a West Coast university during Viet Nam, and while I did have several professors who were liberal, I had one very sharp professor who was in fact was a spokesman for the government at that time.  (He often was sent to Europe to explain our position to students there.)
I did learn a lot from him, and feel being exposed to his viewpoint, and the rationales for his views, gave me a much broader perspective.  But a litmus test?  No way.  As your first responder noted, the test should be how much a teacher knows about the subject they are teaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to be awarded a doctorate in this country a tremendous amount of knowledge needs to be gained.  If I wanted to learn to build a boat, I would actually want to learn from the people who knew most on the subject.  If I found out that people who knew most about the marine industry all voted Libertarian, I would look at that seriously.  If you find  those who are most highly educated and knowledgeable in our society tend to vote a certain way, rather than attacking them, would it not make sense to link the two?  </p>
<p>That being said, I attended a West Coast university during Viet Nam, and while I did have several professors who were liberal, I had one very sharp professor who was in fact was a spokesman for the government at that time.  (He often was sent to Europe to explain our position to students there.)<br />
I did learn a lot from him, and feel being exposed to his viewpoint, and the rationales for his views, gave me a much broader perspective.  But a litmus test?  No way.  As your first responder noted, the test should be how much a teacher knows about the subject they are teaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.danlawton.com/2009/06/01/all-democratic-uo-faculty-hurts-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: “ideological diversity is important”.  But, Ideological diversity does not mean free reign to argue that the earth is flat, the Bible is the “word of GOD”, Intelligent Design has scientific merit, etc.  Some things are just “wrong”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote: “ideological diversity is important”.  But, Ideological diversity does not mean free reign to argue that the earth is flat, the Bible is the “word of GOD”, Intelligent Design has scientific merit, etc.  Some things are just “wrong”.</p>
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		<title>By: jadams76</title>
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		<dc:creator>jadams76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was intrigued by your idea of a program to address the liberal bias of professors on college campuses. I too don&#039;t believe a &quot;quota system&quot; is fair. However while &quot;quotas&quot; is no longer operative, clearly not enough is being done to recuit and encourage conservative teachers at colleges today. If a conservative candidate and a liberal candidate for professor were to apply to teach at Oregon or elsewhere, every effort should be made to select the consevative candidate. Even if the liberal candidate is more qualified. This will encourage more conservatives to enter academia . This should be done at least until this historic imbalance and injustice on campus is rectified. If the faculty continues to select only those that think like them then this liberal  ideological prejudice needs to be addressed in the courts. If only liberals are getting tenure and department chairs, the &quot;good old hippie network&quot;  will continue to keep opposing viewpoints down and not be representative of America as a whole. Except...it&#039;s o.k. when hypocritical openminded liberals discriminate .. ...Isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was intrigued by your idea of a program to address the liberal bias of professors on college campuses. I too don&#8217;t believe a &#8220;quota system&#8221; is fair. However while &#8220;quotas&#8221; is no longer operative, clearly not enough is being done to recuit and encourage conservative teachers at colleges today. If a conservative candidate and a liberal candidate for professor were to apply to teach at Oregon or elsewhere, every effort should be made to select the consevative candidate. Even if the liberal candidate is more qualified. This will encourage more conservatives to enter academia . This should be done at least until this historic imbalance and injustice on campus is rectified. If the faculty continues to select only those that think like them then this liberal  ideological prejudice needs to be addressed in the courts. If only liberals are getting tenure and department chairs, the &#8220;good old hippie network&#8221;  will continue to keep opposing viewpoints down and not be representative of America as a whole. Except&#8230;it&#8217;s o.k. when hypocritical openminded liberals discriminate .. &#8230;Isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: lise</title>
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		<dc:creator>lise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE check out this website. They take legal action to unfair political biases on college campuses.They are doing amazing things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE check out this website. They take legal action to unfair political biases on college campuses.They are doing amazing things!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.danlawton.com/2009/06/01/all-democratic-uo-faculty-hurts-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps one reason why most professors are Democrats is because the more education and learning one attains, the more one sees how the Republican party represents old fashion ideas out of touch with rationalism and reason.  I have seen a lot of Republicans support ideas and policy by thumping on the Bible.  So it leads to reason that professors tend to be rational, learned folks who tend to base beliefs on science and reason, the antithesis of &quot;conservative&quot; Republicanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps one reason why most professors are Democrats is because the more education and learning one attains, the more one sees how the Republican party represents old fashion ideas out of touch with rationalism and reason.  I have seen a lot of Republicans support ideas and policy by thumping on the Bible.  So it leads to reason that professors tend to be rational, learned folks who tend to base beliefs on science and reason, the antithesis of &#8220;conservative&#8221; Republicanism.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your opinion column posted on Yahoo! News I could not help but investigate further. I went to Clemson, one of the largest universities in South Carolina. My freshman English professor touted his liberal agenda and I was one of the few who would oppose him. My grade suffered as a result. As a fiscal conservative and social moderate, I was surprised to see a professor bring their political views into an institution of higher education. I thought I was being taught on how to make an effective argument, but in fact I was being taught to make a  argument that which with the professor agreed. 

It seems the only classes that professor&#039;s may bring in their political biases and retain the subject matter of the course are in the liberal arts (English, Philosophy, Art, etc.). And these types of classes seem to be overwhelmingly dominated by liberal professors.

Now, as a law student in Michigan, I can&#039;t help but notice that higher education leans FAR left. As I write in my papers or final exams I make sure to be a stronger advocate with the plaintiff and not the &quot;evil&quot; corporation. Yet, I can&#039;t help but wonder if this is making me less of a candidate for corporate law.

It is hard to believe that a prestigious university such as Oregon would employ a professor who cannot present a formal argument without associating Republicans with the South and Jefferson Davis (implying all Republicans are Southern and racist). Yes, the South tends to be the most conservative part of the country, yet the higher education institutions are also predominantly taught by liberal professors. Socially, we live in a highly agrarian and religious society and are taught that what we will get will be a result of what we can create with our own two hands, and to never expect a handout. This is the foundation that can be attributed with our leaning towards Republicans. Everyone is entitled to their right to disagree with this. Yet, a professor that is offended by a student who wants a more diverse education is insulting. Their job is to inform and let their student decide, not spoon feed political ideologies. Professors are also supposed to teach their students to argue well. It looks like these &quot;professors&quot; haven&#039;t learned not to commit ad hominem fallacies, personal attacks and generalizations in order to provide an effective argument. I wonder what institutions gave them their Ph.D.&#039;s?

My grandfather (a staunch Clinton supporter) taught me to get both sides of the spectrum before making my own decision. If the liberal arts are flooded with &quot;liberal&quot; professors are we getting a &quot;diverse&quot; education that teaches us to look on both sides? I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your opinion column posted on Yahoo! News I could not help but investigate further. I went to Clemson, one of the largest universities in South Carolina. My freshman English professor touted his liberal agenda and I was one of the few who would oppose him. My grade suffered as a result. As a fiscal conservative and social moderate, I was surprised to see a professor bring their political views into an institution of higher education. I thought I was being taught on how to make an effective argument, but in fact I was being taught to make a  argument that which with the professor agreed. </p>
<p>It seems the only classes that professor&#8217;s may bring in their political biases and retain the subject matter of the course are in the liberal arts (English, Philosophy, Art, etc.). And these types of classes seem to be overwhelmingly dominated by liberal professors.</p>
<p>Now, as a law student in Michigan, I can&#8217;t help but notice that higher education leans FAR left. As I write in my papers or final exams I make sure to be a stronger advocate with the plaintiff and not the &#8220;evil&#8221; corporation. Yet, I can&#8217;t help but wonder if this is making me less of a candidate for corporate law.</p>
<p>It is hard to believe that a prestigious university such as Oregon would employ a professor who cannot present a formal argument without associating Republicans with the South and Jefferson Davis (implying all Republicans are Southern and racist). Yes, the South tends to be the most conservative part of the country, yet the higher education institutions are also predominantly taught by liberal professors. Socially, we live in a highly agrarian and religious society and are taught that what we will get will be a result of what we can create with our own two hands, and to never expect a handout. This is the foundation that can be attributed with our leaning towards Republicans. Everyone is entitled to their right to disagree with this. Yet, a professor that is offended by a student who wants a more diverse education is insulting. Their job is to inform and let their student decide, not spoon feed political ideologies. Professors are also supposed to teach their students to argue well. It looks like these &#8220;professors&#8221; haven&#8217;t learned not to commit ad hominem fallacies, personal attacks and generalizations in order to provide an effective argument. I wonder what institutions gave them their Ph.D.&#8217;s?</p>
<p>My grandfather (a staunch Clinton supporter) taught me to get both sides of the spectrum before making my own decision. If the liberal arts are flooded with &#8220;liberal&#8221; professors are we getting a &#8220;diverse&#8221; education that teaches us to look on both sides? I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading your column in the Monitor, I came here to see the original and find out what all the fuss is about. Clearly there’s nothing here that justifies the hostile response you seem to have gotten from some faculty and students. You address some vexing and important issues. But I don’t think they’re quite as pat as you make them out to be.  

The first among these is the role of diversity in public discourse.  I don’t share the view of some of my fellow liberals that diversity is good in-and-of-itself.  Diversity – or rather, tolerance of diversity- is a good by way of the effect it has on a society. It’s good for individual members because it allows them to cultivate their abilities without arbitrary impediments of bigotry or custom, and it’s good for society as a whole because it diminishes injustice and helps the best ideas and the most capable individuals come to the fore. But in itself, diversity is neither good nor bad. 

If you want to understand whether the lack of political diversity at the University of Oregon is a sign of something sinister, you’ll have to delve more deeply into the source of that state. Have any republicans been denied tenure or faculty positions, based on their political affiliation? Maybe so, but then that’s the harm which needs to be addressed, not a lack of diversity, per se.  I’m not yet convinced that political intolerance is endemic to the University of Oregon, thoughtless and hostile comments from your some of your colleagues notwithstanding (there will always be somebody willing to provide these kinds of soundbites).  But I’m open to the possibility, and it’s an issue that deserves careful and sober analysis, which you have not provided in either of your columns. I’m looking forward to the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading your column in the Monitor, I came here to see the original and find out what all the fuss is about. Clearly there’s nothing here that justifies the hostile response you seem to have gotten from some faculty and students. You address some vexing and important issues. But I don’t think they’re quite as pat as you make them out to be.  </p>
<p>The first among these is the role of diversity in public discourse.  I don’t share the view of some of my fellow liberals that diversity is good in-and-of-itself.  Diversity – or rather, tolerance of diversity- is a good by way of the effect it has on a society. It’s good for individual members because it allows them to cultivate their abilities without arbitrary impediments of bigotry or custom, and it’s good for society as a whole because it diminishes injustice and helps the best ideas and the most capable individuals come to the fore. But in itself, diversity is neither good nor bad. </p>
<p>If you want to understand whether the lack of political diversity at the University of Oregon is a sign of something sinister, you’ll have to delve more deeply into the source of that state. Have any republicans been denied tenure or faculty positions, based on their political affiliation? Maybe so, but then that’s the harm which needs to be addressed, not a lack of diversity, per se.  I’m not yet convinced that political intolerance is endemic to the University of Oregon, thoughtless and hostile comments from your some of your colleagues notwithstanding (there will always be somebody willing to provide these kinds of soundbites).  But I’m open to the possibility, and it’s an issue that deserves careful and sober analysis, which you have not provided in either of your columns. I’m looking forward to the next one.</p>
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		<title>By: Oregon Commentator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism prof says conservatives are Dixie-loving hicks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oregon Commentator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Journalism prof says conservatives are Dixie-loving hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grad student Dan Lawton has a new post over at his blog with responses to his recent ODE opinion piece on the lack of ideological diversity on campus. The  responses are all very predictable [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DanLawton.com &#124; From the Mailbag: Feedback on My Column on Political Diversity</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanLawton.com &#124; From the Mailbag: Feedback on My Column on Political Diversity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] column and rebuts it.  I think this is a pretty neat feature, so I decided to steal it.  My column last week on the need for more political diversity (specifically more conservative voices) at UO generated a [...]</description>
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